A Tale of Two Islams

Wednesday, 13 August, 2003
REPORTER: David O’Shea

Nagiah's 37-year-old husband, Harna, was one of the 11 people killed last week in the Jakarta Marriott Hotel bomb blast.

NAGIAH, (Translation): He was a good man, never angry with me, never harsh, he was patient and he looked after us.

Harna was one of the five taxi drivers who lost their lives. They were waiting for passengers outside the hotel. Although she's still in shock, she says she's beginning to feel anger.

REPORTER, (Translation): Angry with who?

NAGIAH, (Translation): Angry at the one who did all this. I mean the bomber.

REPORTER, (Translation): Who was that?

NAGIAH, (Translation): I don't know yet.

While no-one here has had time to speculate about who the perpetrators may be, everyone is appalled that this extremist act could have been committed in the name of their religion.

GIRL, (Translation): They just use their name Islam, just the name. Yes the name. This is not the meaning of Islam. They are barbaric.

All that's left now is an overwhelming sense of powerlessness as the list of terrorist attacks grows.

MAN, (Translation): Us common people just watch the emergency and ask, "How can the security be so weak?" The hotel, the city, the police, because we already had the experience in Bali, didn't we?

On Monday, an interdenominational prayer meeting was held at the bomb site, in memory of the victims.

Former president Abdurrahman Wahid, or Gus Dur, is one of Indonesia's foremost Islamic scholars. He was one of the high profile visitors paying their respects.

The general consensus is that the group responsible for the bomb was the same one responsible for the Bali bomb - Jemaah Islamiah. The former president says that he's forgiven them.

REPORTER: So we have to forgive them even though they've committed a heinous act?

GUS DUR, FORMER PRESIDENT: No, no, no, that's the religious view and then there are also the quote unquote law view.

According to the law that we have to find the perpetrators and then punish them.

REPORTER: Forgiving them, sir, doesn't that also...

GUS DUR: Yeah, as a man of religion, I have to do that, there is no other question about that.

REPORTER: Do you believe Jemaah Islamiah did the bombing, Gus?

GUS DUR: No.

REPORTER: Who did it?

GUS DUR: No, no no, whoever he is but it's not the necessary Jemaah Islamiah.

REPORTER: So was it an Indonesian group?

GUS DUR: Maybe, who knows? There's a cheap way to accuse somebody from the Islamic movement.

REPORTER: But everybody - most groups, at least from overseas, are saying that. I mean, where did you get your information?

GUS DUR: They can say whatever they want but we are here, we live here, we know them. But I won't say who.

REPORTER: But you know who it is?

GUS DUR: No, no, I don't know.

The alleged spiritual leader of Jemaah Islamiah is Abu Bakar Bashir. His official role is chairman of the mojahedin council, a legitimate group campaigning for Islamic sharia law in Indonesia.

The group's annual congress has just been held in central Java.

SPEAKER, (Translation): George Bush is the war criminal. He should be taken to an international court. Go to hell America!

High profile lawyer Mahendradata was at the congress. He represents Abu Bakar Bashir and also convicted Bali bomber Amrozi.

He says like in the Bali trials, pressure from the West will ensure that his client is not treated fairly.

MAHENDRADATA: They want to put Mr Abu Bakar Bashir in detention forever.

This is the radical Islamic boarding school that Bashir used to head. It's called Ngruki and is said to be a fertile breeding ground for terrorists.

Bali bomber Amrozi is said to have spent time here and so too did Asmar, whose severed head was found on the fifth floor of the Marriott Hotel. The current principal of the Ngruki boarding school is Kyai Haji Wahyuddin. At the mojahedin congress on Sunday, he admitted that Asmar once attended his school.

KYAI HAJI WAHYUDDIN, (Translation): I remembered his name, I remembered and I checked. He was there in 1993 but he wasn't a special student. We have had no institutional contact with him since then.

We handed him back to his parents. I don't know why they are blaming us. After he left there was no further contact with us.

After making his admission, senior leaders of the mojahedin council were determined to cover up the fact that Asmar was in fact a Ngruki old boy.

MAN, (Translation): I saw him on TV admitting that it was Ngruki. He should be more diplomatic and say “I forgot, I'm not sure.” It’s not certain the head was Asmar’s. So there is no link with Ngruki.

They must have had a word to him, because sure enough, shortly afterwards Wahyuddin changed his story, denying that he ever met the alleged suicide bomber Asmar.

KYAI HAJI WAHYUDDIN, (Translation): It’s not true, if your asking, I want information on Asmar, his involvement and the evidence. Then I can clear it up.

Despite mounting evidence against Abu Bakar Bashir, his followers are not about to forsake him or their struggle for Islamic sharia law.

FOLLOWER, (Translation): The congress will follow Sharia law and we won't change our leader in accordance with Sharia law.
Secondly, the Mujahadin Council will not abandon Abu Bakar Bashir. He has the support of Muslim people who will always support other Muslims.

Back at the main hospital in Jakarta, another group of Muslims has a very different attitude.

A 24-hour vigil is being held for this woman's husband, another taxi driver caught up in the explosion. She's been told that he has little chance of survival.

His taxi driver colleagues are taking turns to watch over him. They're not interested in sharia law, but instead are demanding tough justice for terrorists.

REPORTER, (Translation): What should happen to him?

TAXI DRIVER, (Translation): The death penalty – like Amrozi. They are barbarians. The victims are ordinary people. They may seek revenge or have a problem with the government but we are the victims.

We totally reject any terrorism, if they were caught and I could, I would kill them myself.

Two days after I filmed at the hospital, her husband died.