XANANA GUSMAO: No, actually. I still have this dream. I only accepted to be nominated as candidate because of the pressure that I received from the people. Of course, I told them in my campaigns that I was in front of them as candidate, but I don`t want to be, and I promised to come again to them to talk with them about their problems, about their aspirations, and I will repeat again and again that I am here now as president, but I don`t want to be president.

JANA WENDT: Mr Gusmao, terrible crimes were committed against your people, but you have spoken out more for reconciliation than for justice. Why is that important to you?

XANANA GUSMAO: First of all, I believe that we must engage our people to build the future. And because of our experience in 24 years of struggle, of reconciliation, we could not win without the policy of reconciliation between, among these two. I believe that we can do this. We can just start thinking about the future, to prepare ourselves, to prepare our youth, our new generation. We have more than 50% of our population under 20 years of age. More than 44% under 14 years old. You see, what we can do now, we can do in the present, in the current, situation of transition to a new future. He must look at the future.

JANA WENDT: Nonetheless, Mr Gusmao, some of the Indonesian military who are implicated in the terrible crimes against your people are sitting comfortably in Jakarta. Do you think that ultimately they should be tried for what they allegedly did?

XANANA GUSMAO: What I can say is that all my thoughts, all my efforts, will be directed to the reconciliation amongst East Timorese. About Indonesian military, about international tribunal, I would like to say that it is a task for the international community. We are the poor country in Asia. My preoccupation, my...all that I must do, I should do during five years, is how to increase and to better and to improve the living standards of our people. I cannot put all my attention to every matters, every issues. It is why sometimes people say that I don`t...I don`t...that I deny justice, the need of justice. No. In our reconciliation process amongst East Timorese what I said is that before one goes to the trial, we must have a fair process of reconciliation between authors and the victims. After they are tried and they go to sentence, we can think about amnesty case by case. We are trying to combine all of these aspects. I just want to say that let the international community, let the international organisations, to have a say in these matters when we talk about Indonesian military, when we talk about international tribunal.

JANA WENDT: I`m sorry, Mr Gusmao, we have to leave it there but we wish you well for Sunday and beyond.